Sanders is no Adonis, look at how flabby he is in the picture.
Well, indeed correct. But look at where "Adonis" is in the picture. ( The canvas! LOL!)
Actually, Sanders was really fit for this fight here (unlike the Vitali one) and at his optimum weight of about 220. He just kind of has one of those sort of 'soft' looking body types/physiques. Incidentally, Ibragimov is the same way. Not everyone can be a "body beautiful" like the Bizzy one, ya' know...*flexes rather modest/average muscles, looks down below and searches for 6-pack...finds it, and proceeds to remove it from the refrigerator*
BTW - Wlad and his brother were overheard 'taunting' the slighty 'doughy' looking Sanders before the bout. It went as follows...*in Eastern Euro/German "Hans & Frans" voice/accent*
Vitali: "Look at the doughy flabby man bro. I don't know whether we should fight him, or use him for pie crust."
just think if that sob had wanted to be a fighter insted of a golfer same goes for buster douglas who never wanted to be a fighter to wanted to play bsketball but dad forced him to fight
Sanders had enormous talent. One of the purest blends of hand speed and power in the heavyweight division we've seen in the last 15-20 years.
Weird thing. Nate Tubbs, who did not have the same kind of talent level as Sanders, watched some of Sanders' fights, and didn't see a problem with him at all. He was right. Nate was a converted southpaw (you'd never know it watching him in the gym) who knew how to trap southpaw fighters in the wrong position. Styles, styles, styles.
Yep, you guys beat me to it; Sanders...was definetly no joke! FAST hands, a SOUTHPAW, and he could CRACK. Christ almighty, with the proper dedication, training, and management? Whew...who knows what might have been??? Shoot, you can even throw out the first two for that matter (dedication and training) and just imagine with the right management what might have been? What if Sanders was not South African, but a white American hvy back in the 90's???
In somewhat fairness to Corrie, he was avoided a little throughout his career, and for good reason! But geez that guy could have and should have accomplished more...
Sanders had enormous talent. One of the purest blends of hand speed and power in the heavyweight division we've seen in the last 15-20 years.
Weird thing. Nate Tubbs, who did not have the same kind of talent level as Sanders, watched some of Sanders' fights, and didn't see a problem with him at all. He was right. Nate was a converted southpaw (you'd never know it watching him in the gym) who knew how to trap southpaw fighters in the wrong position. Styles, styles, styles.
Greg - I have seen but one round/clip of Nate Tubbs, and while he may not have had an extreme amount of talent, it also seems that (by all indications) he really 'underacheived' as well. We were talking about him fairly recently (remember, he was going to come out of retitirement at 40 and fight Greenberg? Probably a good thing he had a change of heart/mind there...) Anyways, refresh my memory: Was it a case of 'sparring partners mentality' and/or drugs with him in his younger years??? I mean, he only had like about 15 or 18 pro fights...???
I remember when I was looking him up last year, I saw that 1st or 2nd round KO victory over Sanders. I was like: "Whoa..." I mean, Sanders was NOT the easiest guy to KO! His prblem wasn't so much his chin, but more his stamina. But Nate was a pretty big puncher, and he must have just 'caught him on the button'...( Or as those silly Brits say: "Clattered him something proper"...LOL...)
Man, Buster...was GOOD. When he wanted to be, that is. That guy was kind of like a Larry Holmes or Riddick Bowe in some ways ( unfortunately, he was ALOT like the latter in certain other ways! ) It kind of funny...I remember most of the press clippings and coverage the following day after the Tyson upset, and the way they basically described Buster was the following...
"Completely unknown journeyman".
"Ohio club-fighter".
Well...that wasn't exactly true. Buster was a world-class contender, but just kind of a 'hard-luck' case up to that point. (and most of his bad luck was by his own doing/undoing of course...) but in reading those words and hearing those accounts, one would have thought Buster was just a painfully-mediocre and extremely-limited journeyman club-fighter! Like a Kevin Mcbride or something. No, not at all; Buster had some serious talent and skill.
I remember my father ( who is not quite the complete 'boxing nuts' we are, but definetly more than a 'casual fan') watched that fight the day after. ( * I either had it taped or they replayed it. ) He had never seen Douglas before, and his almost immediate reaction was one of surprise...
"Whoa...this guy (Buster) is actually pretty damn good. Good size, and good fast jab..."
bizzack wrote on Oct 29, '07, edited on Oct 29, '07
These would have been pretty interesting fights...
Sanders vs. Morrison, Sanders vs. Moorer...
!@$%^&*(()(&%%( !!
( JUDAS PRIEST!!! )
* Hey, even throw one Mr. Alex "The Destroyer/Or Be Destroyed" Stewart and Donovan "Razor" Ruddock in the mix!
BTW - Remember 90's fringe hvy contender Lionel Butler? He could punch some, but he was not very skilled and slow. He also had a weight problem as well. No, Butler doesn't quite make the cut here.
Nate's first love wasn't boxing. It was basketball. He didn't really like all the problems associated with fights falling through, management stuff, things like that. He was more interested in learning the business side of boxing for life after boxing.
Nate's main attribute was power. He had a lot of it. The joke around Cincy gyms was that if you combined Nate's power with Tony's (Tony is his half brother) boxing skill, added some discipline, you'd have the perfect heavyweight.
i think busters last fight b4 tyson was a very easy win over OLIVER McCALL
Indeed. He also had a win over Trevor Berbick right before that as well.
Geez...I was just looking over Buster's record...boy, his weight problem certainly wasn't 'age-related'. ( He had one from day one! At least of his pro career...christ almighty...these numbers here fluctuate like a volatile stock market I tell you...)
Tony was the Tubbs with the drug problem. I think he has 15 or 16 children as well. Last time that Tony was in prison---that I'm aware of---was up to 2004. That was for non-support. Crack cocaine addiction was a huge, huge problem for a long time. Tony & Nate are very, very different in terms of their personalities. Nate does not take a lot of things seriously, like his boxing career, but he takes a lot of other things seriously. He's been on the board of community groups, was trying to get on the board of the Cincy YMCA two years ago, a whole bunch of stuff.
Tony just seemed to be born to be wild. His mom told me some funny stories about him. When he was a teenager, she used to put her bed in front of the front door at night because he'd always try to sneak out. One night, she heard a "thump" outside. Sure enough, it was Tony jumping out the window to go partying. She caught him. During his drug years, she'd go driving into some of the absolute worst areas of Cincy trying to find him. When Tony did stints in prison, he'd often lead Bible studies, but once he was out.....problems. When I last saw Tony fight in 2005, she climbed up the steps before the first round and hugged him. Very, very nice, pleasant, and dedicated woman. Very fun to talk to.
That's a helluva neat story. ( Boy, I bet he made a pretty loud 'thump' when he landed too. He was a pretty big boy! LOL...) And yeah, that's right; unfortunately he did have a mighty fierce crack problem/addiction. He was a very, very good heavyweight actually. Very underrated. Alot like Buster Mathis in some ways. Some only remember his quick loss to Tyson, but that was more a testament to the 20 yr.old Tyson than anything. Amongst other things, Tony gave a young 23 or 24 yr.old Riddick Bowe absolute FITS in a very close 10-round loss back in the early 90's.
Sanders is pretty much done. Klit ices him early and brutally. 
