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Do any of you folks remember getting drunk for the first time? ( I'm not talking 'a little tipsy' -- I'm talking DRUNK.) Well, I sure do...

I was 13 yrs. old and at a high-school 'kegger'. I looked a few years older than my age, and at 5'10" 150.lbs, I could "handle my liquor" better than most at that age as well. However, there was a bit of an unpleasant 'surprise' in the other corner that night, one that would render me all but senseless, and left to wonder -- "Where did that truck come from???"

His name...was "The Green Demon".

"The Green Demon" (a.k.a. Rainier Ale) in it's sinister green bottle or can was all but a Northwest legend in the 80's and in years past. ( * You will still find the stuff in some local liquor stores actually ) Quite honestly..."The Demon" is about the most foul-tasting beer these lips have ever sampled, but at a very potent 10-12% alcohol content/knockout ratio -- you can see why it was somewhat in demand, especially amongst the younger crowd.

I had never met The Demon until that night, and while I DID in fact immediately sense there was something a bit different about this 'opponent' (versus some of the other 3-5% tomato cans/light beers I had previously 'knocked out') in my youthful zeal and ignorance -- I paid The Demon absolutely no respect. "Bring em on! He'll go down just like all the others!," was my battle cry.

The Demon had other ideas.

Things started off okay...but before long, they seemed to start to 'slip from my control'. This left me a bit confused. So what did I do of course? Well, like any "Irish-fighter" worth his salt, I got right back in there and started 'slugging away' (a.k.a drinking) some more! And from that point on...things just got progressively worse. My posture was slouched; my gait was unsteady; and I started doing and saying some pretty stupid things. Before I knew it, someone had jumped in to (mercifully) "call a halt to the proceedings'.

The Demon had gotten the best of me.

So what in the world does all of this have to do with young Middleweight prospect Andy Lee? Well...I'm not quite sure, but let me put it this way: Lee was 'green', he's Irish, and he ran-into-one-hell-of-an-unexpected DEMON last week named Brian Vera. And by god...if he didn't take on the look of a stubborn young drunken idiot in his encounter -- I don't know who did.

Things started off 'innocuous' enough as the (15-1 w/12KO's) 6'2" 23 yr.old Lee had expectedly deposited his foe Vera (15-1 w/10KO's 5'10" 25 yrs.) on the canvas in the first stanza. ( * I had known very, very little about Vera other than he was KO'd by a good young fighter in Jaidron Codrington in his one loss. However, I was a bit surprised to see the youngster only had that one loss on his resume, and had heard from some good sources that he has sparred with some of the best. Still...nothing really there to lead one to believe a major upset was in the makings.) In Round Two, Vera started firing back, and I casually made the comment on the phone that "this is probably a pretty good test for young Lee".

In Round Three -- Vera started firing back some more.

The tone of my voice was probably not an extremely 'alarming one', but I made the casual reference at this time that -- "This kid Vera is giving him a pretty good go, and perhaps a bit more than they had expected.."

By Round Four...in my seasoned observing eye...it was all but OVER. My comment at this juncture was the following: "By god...Lee...is not going to win this fight. As a matter of fact, he is going to get STOPPED."

At this juncture, the look on young Lee's face was one of confusion and desperation; he had NEVER been tested like this, and on national TV nonetheless. The look on Vera's face? A look of absolute CALM, FOCUS, and DETERMINATION. The difference in appearance/expression from the neck-up with these two was STARK. And before long, the differences below the neck stark as well.

By Round Five, the effects of "The Demon" perhaps taking there insidious grip, young Lee's posture was slouched, his gait unsteady, and his punches flailing. By this juncture fatigue had also set-in along with the panic and confusion. Not too mention the steady and methodical physical and psychological beating Vera was administering.

By Round Six, Lee was fighting on little more than Irish stubbornness and pure heart. His technique had completely gone south and astray from him. and there was not much more than pure youthful desperation behind his punches. It was abundantly clear at this juncture that this was not going to be just another showcase on the canvas from a young Van Gogh; this was more taking on the look of Van Gogh - in a fit of confusion and desperation - slicing his own ear off. At one point in this round, a frustrated and beaten Lee even dropped his hands and told Vera to "go ahead and give me more". Vera...calmly and methodically obliged, blasting the prized prospect with rights-and-lefts and leaving him wavering from stem-to-sternum. Lee was also landing his share as well, but it was clearly just a matter of time, as he was barely able to lift his own hands, and his legs - now stricken with fatigue and a foreign 'unsteadiness' - had all but betrayed him.

By Round Seven...it was all over. The referee stepped-in and called a halt to the proceedings.

"The Green Demon" - Brian Vera - had gotten the best of the "Green Irishman" Andy Lee on this night.

 

*Bizzy On Boxing*

(2008)


16 Comments
bizzack wrote on Apr 1
* Note - The green Lee undoubtedly lost some 'green' of a different sort ($$$) by this loss, but whatt can you say? He's still very young, and while it might be called "The Sweet Science" -- matchmaking certainly isn't "The Perfect Science".

And on this night -- it was more "The Mad Science".

*BB*
bizzack wrote on Apr 1
BTW - Ironically, I stopped growing at 13. ( I am the same size now as I was then, albeit about 20-25 pounds heavier. )
ondrizek wrote on Apr 1
Lee was matched perfectly. He lost, but that sure as hell was the matchmaker's fault. A follow-up right hook as Atlas suggested would've helped significantly or so would've a more generous helping of a jab. And maybe just maybe, a different trainer. One that can teach his pupils how to fight on the inside at least some. Steward is a great teacher of the sport and how to fight tall. He seems lost about the ropes, fighting backwards, and on the inside. And I don't care how good a tall guy is, there will always be fights where a guy gets inside and can take your best. Lee found out Vera was that guy, and Klitschko will find out someday the same thing. I think Lee beats him in a rematch and has a higher ceiling, but a few things need to change for him and his fighting.
bizzack wrote on Apr 1
I agree with you on the more 'technical aspects' Troy (e.g, should have followed-up with the right, jabbed more, went to the body more esp. in the first, etc.) but I really think that at some point in the mid-going here...the poor kid (Lee) just plain "fell apart" mentally.

And then...physically as well.

He had just never before been in that situation, and didn't quite know how to react. We've seen it happen other times with young & untested fighters, but nevertheless -- it's still a bit of a 'jolt' when you actually see it happening/unfolding before your eyes.
bizzack wrote on Apr 1
BTW - I'm not by any means sold on Vera's ultimate long-range potential, but no doubt about this: He was READY for this fight, and DETERMINED to win. He wore a look as if almost just EXPECTING to win, and I don't mean that in the derogatory 'cocky/over-confident' sense.
ondrizek wrote on Apr 1
I don't agree that Lee completely feel apart mentally. The kid unlike his taller counterpart in the Steward camp, was willing and able to engage and he was still throwing when the fight was stopped a little early (not saying it would've lasted much onger). I don't think he was trained for a situation like that to ever happen. Steward fighters have absolutely no plan-B. He had mental lapses I will concede that and that is why he lost, but he was willing to and tried to continue to fight and was landing shots still. He had an answer for Vera's right hand, but it just wasn't good enough.
bizzack wrote on Apr 1
He was certainly "willing to fight" Troy and still landing shots for that matter...but any and all technique, and game plan COMPLETELY went out the window. I mean, it was pretty obvoius the kid was rattled, confused, and had lost his composure. The moment when he let his hands down in frustration and said "hit me" all but explemifies that.
bizzack wrote on Apr 1
He started fighting like a drunken Irishman T.O...seriously...(!)
bizzack wrote on Apr 1
BTW - A "few lapses"??? Good grief T.O, the kid fought his heart out, and by saying he kinda "fell apart mentally" I'm NOT saying that he "QUIT", but that being said -- the last four rounds of that fight was basically one gigantic 'lapse'. ( He was still game and landing his share -- but doing virtually NOTHING he was being told to, and his technique looked like a drunken Irish pub fighter... and a very frustrated and confused one at that.)

I still think he has definite potential, but it was just (basically) a very young fighter in a foreign situation that didn't know quite how to react. Just "a little too much a little too soon", so to speak. But like David Haye in his early 20's (and many others for that matter) perhaps it will ultimately prove to be a great learning experience for him?
bizzack wrote on Apr 1
I'm tellin ya' T.O...Young Lee "danced with The Demon"...he danced with The Demon T.O...He danced with "The Green Demon" -- and he got just a little bit 'hammered' and sick.

:O
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mando101 wrote on Apr 2
bah bah bah rah bah rah TEQUILA...well any beer is good for me now......

My wife keeps asking me how you manage to get drunk almost daily with out money? I tell her "well, baby is hard."

Honest trust.....you can use my line...all my friends do any way....

"IT'S THAT RIGHT!!" that is another line.
neverlast wrote on Apr 2
I've been told before Lee's recent loss by many people who I trust for an opinion that Lee was a much better prospect then John Duddy. Time will tell...Duddy wa penciled in as a probable challenger for Kelly Pavlik this summer. Duddy blew that opportunity with his last performance. I'm curious to see how and if Lee and Duddy will bounce back.
bizzack wrote on Apr 3
I've been told before Lee's recent loss by many people who I trust for an opinion that Lee was a much better prospect then John Duddy. Time will tell...Duddy wa penciled in as a probable challenger for Kelly Pavlik this summer. Duddy blew that opportunity with his last performance. I'm curious to see how and if Lee and Duddy will bounce back.
I thought Lee had more potential and long-term upside than Duddy, Jim -- and I still tend to think that. But...as far as that goes (esp. at this point) "who knows???"
bizzack wrote on Apr 3
BTW - The stoppage was a bit 'unusual'. Lee was still throwing at the time it was called, but despite that -- I had no real problem with the stoppage, and neither did Manny. As a matter of fact, seconds before that, I was wondering if Manny should (or was perhaps going to) "throw in the towel".
durantheman wrote on Apr 6
My man, lee was beat up, he is young lets hope lee can re-group and come back soon. plz send all mails to gloriamichaelc@aol.com tmail is not in use no more. thanks. mikey!.
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