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JULIO CESAR CHAVEZ JR: "The Chosen One"?

May 2, '08 7:21 PM
by Brian for everyone

Throughout history, Boxing has always seemed to (almost miraculously) have a smooth and seamless transition between the eras of it's 'mega-stars'. The types with the proverbial 'crossover appeal', and that almost 'transcend the sport'. I won't even go back to the days of Dempsey-to-Louis here, let's just use the more recent past as example...

From Ali to...Leonard.

From Leonard to...Delahoya.

From Delahoya to...Chavez Jr.?

In looking at the above, one will notice a common theme, and some almost dare-I-say prerequisites required in order to be ordained as "The Chosen One".

#1 - They must be VERY young, as in a minimum of under-25.

#2 - They must be handsome.

#3 - They must have Olympic pedigree, i.e, Gold Medals.

Well, Chavez doesn't have the third (the 35-0-1 w/29 KO's Culican, Mexico native in fact has basically ZERO amateur exp. and has been 'learning on the job') and he's not even American for that matter either. But he is young, handsome, has name recognition, and he also happens to have a HUGE Mexican and Mexican-American fanbase already. So much so, that by 2007 -- the only way you could see young Julio was by Pay-Per-View!

Okay, so the kid has definite mega earning-potential, but does he have some actual talent and ability? Some real potential?

Well, by god...I think he does. How much? The jury is still out on that, and I don't have a real honest and accurate 'gauge' on that yet. But given Chavez Jr. all but non-existent amateur background and precocious youth, I have to say I have been fairly impressed by his development and improvement.

When I first saw this kid at 18 -- he could not box-a-lick. And worse yet, at 6-feet tall and 130 pounds -- his build and physique was worse than that of most junior high kids. ( And the baby-faced lad also probably had less facial hair than your average one too! ) Simply put, the kid looked like he had absolutely no business whatsoever even being in a professional prizefighting ring. But that slowly (but steadily) began to change, and fast forward a few years and low and behold the six-footer has filled-out to 154 pounds, and will almost certainly finish his career at 160, if not even higher.

And by god -- I think I even see a few whiskers as well!

Julio Cesar Chavez Jr...future Undisputed Middleweight World Champion and torch-bearer/poster-boy for Pro Boxing 2009+ and "A.D" as in = "After Delahoya"???

I don't know guys...whadda' ya' think?

*Bizzy On Boxing*

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23 Comments

dmurphy wrote on May 2

I think the PPV Train is pulling away from the Station for fights like he's been having. Does anyone have any numbers on last weekends? I know the previous ones have done decent business, but I really think they've gone to the Well once too often, and there's been a definite backlash. Considering the lack of amatuer background, he's been fighting about who he should be fighting, in fact a Jose Celeya might've even been too fast..........but this can't go on forever. It's a two-edged sword being the Son of a Legend, the easy part is now behind him and now it's time to face overhyped expectations head on.

bizzack wrote on May 2

Well said Murphy...

bizzack wrote on May 2

BTW - I think you'll start seeing Jr. on SHO or HBO here in the near future Murph...

bizzack wrote on May 2, edited on May 2

NOW WITH POLL ATTACHED! (LOOK UP ABOVE!) HIT IT GUYS!

*BB*

(Look -- it's practically sticking it's chin out begging to be hit!!!)

Comment deleted at the request of the author.

bizzack wrote on May 2

Test.

neverlast wrote on May 2

I doubt if Kelly Pavlik will still be at 160 in 2010 but if he is...Chavez Jr. won't be champ.

bizzack wrote on May 2

If Pavlik isn't at 168 by 2010 -- I'll hand over my right teste.

BTW - Did you vote Jimmy? (By god -- looks like you did!)

dmurphy wrote on May 3

bizzack said

BTW - I think you'll start seeing Jr. on SHO or HBO here in the near future Murph...

Agreed. They gone this route as far as it will go and it's been a good run, but it's time for Premium Cable appearances and seeing what the kid can really do. Not saying he has to fight the Elite, but he does have to step it up and Showtime/HBO will certainly require that of him.

eeeze wrote on May 3

I've seen quite a few of his fights and all of his recent ones. He anit got the goods. Against one very over hyped Sanchez he was getting hit with relative ease. Luckily Sanchez, who in my unbiased opinion would have extreemly difficult time defeating the average six-round fighters here on the Island, had no pop. You could see there was concern in the corner and and in face of JCCsr. Then the dimensionally smaller and pudgy Celaya got up off the canvas to fight Chavez on even tearms before getiing dubiously stopped. Again the corner and Dad all but pushed the panic button. This last fight was against a designated loser with a patted record. Check it out and check out Sanchez' while your at it. The WBC (of course) has already catered to Da Kid and rated him. Obviously he smells money. Totally absurd and unfair. Unfair to those that merit the ranking and unfair to Chavez jr because the fans will clammor for him to "defend" his ranking against a B-level 154-160lber. And he WON'T because he CAN'T!! First he'll take the easy route with "gimmie" regional titles and will seek the weakest link/links until someone is stripped AND THEN.... the suddenly TOP ranked Chavez jr will be in a mandatory against some "miraculously" ranked patted patsy. Or something like that. Yes, Suliaman can/will MAKE HIM A CHAMP if he has to OR wants too. But as soon as he faces a TRUE top A or B level 160lb'er it will all end. I have no quams about him making a living nor cashing in on his Papa's name. He's got a RIGHT to do so. After all it is HIS dad. It's part of his inheritence of sorts. But if he had to make his bones Hagler/Benitez/Hearns-style... he'd NEVER make it. People are expecting TOO much of him. Expecting the "second comming" of JCC!!! Yes, the game could use another one, no doubt. They are setting themselves up for disappointent. It anit easy being a Chavez.

bizzack wrote on May 3

SENOR EZ' RICHOTETS ONE OFF THE NOGGIN OF JOSE 'SILLYMAN' FOR AN INSIDE-THE-PARK-HOME-RUN!!!

("Go EZ! Go EZ!")

Yes, excellent points. As for myself? I don't think the kid is garbage, and I hope he's treated at least somewhat fairly ( * He seems like a nice kid with a good attitude...unlike his 'old man'! ) but my answer at this point would also have to be probably no.

dmurphy wrote on May 3

Bizzy-
So far, treating him fairly hasn't been a problem. He's making money hand over fist when a similar guy at this stage of his career would be skrimping along and trying to get noticed. It's a two way street, you can't the attention without the undue expectations. I know it's mostly due to his Fathers exploits rather than his own, but really how does his situation differ from Amir Khan's really? It's part of todays scene to take a little show of promise and blow it all out of proportion.

mando101 wrote on May 3

You know Jr. pro career is his amatuer career, I was told he was making over $50,000 per fight about a year and half ago. I think jr. is ready for some real fight with real opponents now. After all he has big shoes to fill

bizzack wrote on May 3

Yeah, good point Murph...

...Is Amir Khan "The Chosen One" then??? (lol)

;-)

dmurphy wrote on May 3

bizzack said

Yeah, good point Murph...

...Is Amir Khan "The Chosen One" then??? (lol)

;-)

If so, then we're in DEEP trouble ;)

dmurphy wrote on May 3

mando101 said

Mando-
Yeah, I just don't like the idea that he's seen as an extension of his Dad is all it is. JCC Sr.'s Career is over, but it's like some of these people are trying to keep it going by going nuts over his Son. Judge him on his own merit..........don't idolize him like he's his Dad because he isn't, and for the same reasons don't be too critical when he makes some mistakes and shows he isn't his Dad, because he isn't. I wish people would judge him like his name were something else, maybe people on both sides would be more realistic.

bizzack wrote on May 3

"Judge him as if his name were something else"... - Murphy

*gulp*...(Bizzack comes to startling revelation...)

"Yeah, but if you do that Murph -- the kids really not all that good!"

;-(

eeeze wrote on May 3

BIZZ No, your right, the Kid anit garbage. He's actually well schooled. And more importantly... he believes in the hype that he's been submerged in. All this attention has him all psyched up. Something that his camp knows is vital. It actually makes him more dedicated, another plus. But he aint got the goods. by that I'm not refering to his camparison with his Dad. what I mean is that he's not championship nor A/B+level material. when he decided to box OR was convinced OR when it was decided FOR HIM, whatever, his camp knew that this project had to be carefully concieved, elaborated and cooked to perfection. it was NO coincidence that the Kid had NO amatuer experience. It was planned that way. ONE devastating amatuer loss, one thrashing, one brain shaking brutal right might've been enough to RUIN him OR make him "gun shy" OR give the "Lamb" second thoughts and even decide that "maybe boxing aint for me after" and quit before the "project" gets off the ground. I've seen it happen before with the sons of other fighters, sports figures and some celebraties, basketball players, football players policemen, who have wanted or were CONVINCED to give boxing a try. Having no amatuer fights actually gives the camp an "excuse" when the Kid doesn't impress as he's "taken by the hand" in their attempt to cash in on Daddy's name. Do any of you think that he would've been a fighter if his last name was Smith, Jones, Diaz or Febus?? hmmm.... And yes Dave, I see your point as well. If he wants to get PAID for something he has YET to earn... the fans are going to expect MORE. 'More' than what he's got. Peace

mrmonzon wrote on May 4

GUYS, I Think JR will do well. he is getting hand picker opponents wasnt SR also? MRMONZON.

dmurphy wrote on May 4

eeeze said

eeeze-
You might be right about this being engineered. This other Son,Omar, the one that fought on the undercard of the Chavez Jr.-Celaya PPV, no amatuer experience there either. He was 5-0 and hadn't fought anyone who'd actually won a fight :) and on the PPV, even though he stopped his opponent at the 1:27 mark of Round One, Genaro Hernandez mentioned TWICE during the 87 Second fight about his Right Hand being Low when he threw his Left Hook, a simple lesson that apparently is either unnoticed or simply ignored. I think your Dead On and the first time someone decent nails him, it's going to be "Oh, well, he had no amatuer experience". It's by design.

mrmonzon wrote on May 5

mAN jim,i

mrmonzon wrote on May 5

MAN JIM, If pavlik fought jr now or later, i feel sorry for jr.. bANG zOOM ! !

mrmonzon wrote on May 13

i meant hand picked early in their careers. jr shouldstep up now, i believe sr hasa lot to do with it. monzon

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