Referee: "Elegant" Elmo Adolph ( * It's official -- He's out of retirement for this series )
Venue: AmatoBoxing Arena
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Sal Sanchez vrs Julio Chavez thats a great match up! A hudge crown of Mexicans is to be expected.Both had great jaws and great stamina as featherweights.Both had lighting reflexes. Chavez was very very quick in the lower division. Sanchez was also. So both trigger fisted fighters could get leather off in a hurry. No advantage to either.They both figure to land alot. Defense was not a big priority of either ,they were both so strong that they could walk through what most guys threw at them and they both knew it.So it seems here a distance fight. Chavez coming forward and tring to get inside and Sanchez tring to keep distance and outbox Julio.Suprising as it may seem now Salvadore Sanchez was consitered a average champion in much of his career. His title defenses before he met Gomez were not impressive. That is why he was the underdog to Gomez.Sanchez reputation is largely baised on the Gomez fight.Chavez was a mexican marvel and noted as a great fighter all the way in his career pounding senseless top quality fighters for years.It would be a intresting duel. Both had iron jaws and rugged constutions ,both had teriffic handspeed and reflexes in the 126 pound division. Chavez however had a great body attack than Sanchez did not have. Chavez had the great right hand lead punch. Chavez had better punching power and would be a likely winner of punch exchanges.Sanchez would not have likely be able to outbox Chavez for long and if he lost the punche exchanges he loses the fight.Mexican fans would be in a frenzy but las Vegas oddsmakers would be right to pick Julio Chavez by a clear cut decision win.He just had better tools.
So many variables. One is that, at least in my mind, Chavez was simply the bigger fighter. I'm having a hard time thinking back to him in terms of a 130 pounder, but even that is a weight that Sanchez didn't reach. The other, of course, is that Sanchez died at 25 while possibly not having reach his peak (maybe he did, but we'll never know). Sal mentioned the body punching of Chavez as being the key difference and I think I'd have to agree. I think if Chavez landed similar punches to what Gomez or Azumah Nelson did, he'd weaken Sanchez more than those two did. I'd take Chavez by decision in a close fight for the first half but that might turn into more one of survival(for Sanchez) as we hit the final rounds.
Guys...I'm actually still learning about Sanchez and becoming a bit better-acquainted with him visually. I was a young kid at the time of his reign, and while I was closely following Boxing at the time, he was just one of those guys that I somehow - for some reason - hardly ever saw.
As far as the size goes...there is SPECUALTION that Sanchez could have POSSIBLY finished his carrer as high as 135 or maybe even 140. He was pretty tall for 126, and pretty young as well. ( * I actually believed he died at 23, but I'll double-check on that) 130 was almost a certainty for him from what I hear, but alas -- we shall never know.
Like I said, I don't know quite enough on Sanchez to comment. It's possible that I might look at it in a similar way to Chavez-Arguello, where I would probably pick Arguello at 130/135, but not 140, I don't know...
I've got some S.S fights/clips via YouTube and others I'm cueing up...
P.S - Hardly EVER do I do this (as a matter of fact...I don't think I've EVER done the following, and may never again) but did anyone notice a little (SLIGHT) 'alteration' with Chavez's record?
No -- that wasn't a mistake or typo.
( Sorry Julio -- you had SEVEN losses...not SIX! )
BTW - That body-attack of Chavez was indeed something...boy, when is his 20's, he was awfully difficult to pick against...and he had a pier-block for a chin (and head)...
Wait a minute guys...a CUT! I think somebody might be cut!
( Actually -- I think I might have spilled some pasta-sauce over the keyboard...)
Hummmmmmmmmm, the coments seem to highly favor Chavez . Everybody that commented and picked a winner went with Chavez. YET this blog has Sanchez winning in a pool! I am agast -and I think the fix is in.
As far as the size goes...there is SPECUALTION that Sanchez could have POSSIBLY finished his carrer as high as 135 or maybe even 140. He was pretty tall for 126, and pretty young as well. ( * I actually believed he died at 23, but I'll double-check on that) 130 was almost a certainty for him from what I hear, but alas -- we shall never know.
Your right,Bizzy, can't beleive I made that mistake. Born 01-26-59 and Died 08-12-82, still more than five months short of his 24th Birthday. I'm sure he'd have outgrown Feather, but I don't know how far he'd have gone. I have a feeling that he'd have gone somewhat like Arguello, who had a similar build (what a shame THEY never met, huh?) and made a VERY good Lightweight, but can't see him campaigning with great success at 140. Similar Build, but he didn't have AA's Power, Has anyone here ever seen Sanchez's one loss to Antonio Beccara or his fight with Trinidad Sr.? I've never seen either anywhere.
Hummmmmmmmmm, the coments seem to highly favor Chavez . Everybody that commented and picked a winner went with Chavez. YET this blog has Sanchez winning in a pool! I am agast -and I think the fix is in.
LOL, either that or this fictional AmatoBoxing Arena where the fight is being held is located in Culiacan, and the Judges want to escape with their Lives ;)
This is a tough one to call mainly because of Salvador's short body of work. No doubt he accomplished a lot in a short time. Two KO wins over Danny " Little Red " Lopez, wins over Azumah Nelson and Ruben Castillo. Also his masterpiece over Wilfredo Gomez. I once did a Dream Fight between Arguello and Sanchez at 130. I had Alexis coming from behind to win a close but deserved 15 round decision. I think it would be the same way with Chavez-Sanchez. Salvador would have his moments but Chavez would keep coming and eventually wear Sanchez down. Chavez by a close 15 round decision.
I think Arguello beats Chavez at 130 and 135. Duran beats Chavez at 135, 140 and 147. Pryor beats Chavez at 140. Probably at 135 too.
This is a tough one to call mainly because of Salvador's short body of work. No doubt he accomplished a lot in a short time. Two KO wins over Danny " Little Red " Lopez, wins over Azumah Nelson and Ruben Castillo. Also his masterpiece over Wilfredo Gomez. I once did a Dream Fight between Arguello and Sanchez at 130. I had Alexis coming from behind to win a close but deserved 15 round decision. I think it would be the same way with Chavez-Sanchez. Salvador would have his moments but Chavez would keep coming and eventually wear Sanchez down. Chavez by a close 15 round decision.
I think Arguello beats Chavez at 130 and 135. Duran beats Chavez at 135, 140 and 147. Pryor beats Chavez at 140. Probably at 135 too.
Jim- I agree with all those. Arguello might be Chavez' best bet of those three, but to be honest I don't think he beats any of them. Duran would just eat him up and I don't think he could've kept up with Pryor.
Once again guys -- prime Chavez very, very difficult to bet against. ( I'm not voting on this one here by the way, because I don't think it would be fair to Sanchez, since I'm still becoming familiar with him visually. )
As for Duran at 135/140 against Chavez -- I WOULD give him the edge in that one. I like his edge in speed there, and Roberto's defense was very underrated.
"Yes, I voted for Sanchez over Chavez. At 130, I like Sanchez by decision over both Arguello and Chavez. At 135 and 140, that's a different story." - Frank Lotierzo
BTW - I just couldn't help but make that highly dubious "draw" of Chavez with Whitaker in fact a LOSS. There was just no 'grey area' in that one there -- it was a flat-out ROBBERY.
Whitaker isn't everyone's flavor of ice cream, but he was without-a-doubt the greatest 135-140 pounder of his era, and one of the greatest ever period.
Once agian Jim...you just speak the 'gospel truth'...
But here is the funny thing!
In SOME ways -- a prime 20-something 160-168 ROY JONES JR. was similar!!!!!!!!!!!! But you see, guys like Kenny Weldon and Frank Lotierzo (Who you damn well know I both love and respect!) would probably never accept this notion!!!!!!
At this risk of sounding like Yogi Berra, Jim -- "They were completely different but similar!!!"
( "Brilliant!", as the Guiness commercial would say! )
BTW - I just couldn't help but make that highly dubious "draw" of Chavez with Whitaker in fact a LOSS. There was just no 'grey area' in that one there -- it was a flat-out ROBBERY.
Whitaker isn't everyone's flavor of ice cream, but he was without-a-doubt the greatest 135-140 pounder of his era, and one of the greatest ever period.
*BB*
Bizzy- I remember listening to post fight comments on the Radio like an hour after Whitaker-Chavez, and Don King was trying to spin a rematch and the interviewer, probably for his own ammusement, asked King who he thought had won, and he goes "I thought Julio had the edge". Two things that were uique about that Interview. It was the only time I ever heard anyone suggest Chavez had actually won and also the last I ever heard anyone associated with Chavez mention a rematch ;)
Bizzy- I remember listening to post fight comments on the Radio like an hour after Whitaker-Chavez, and Don King was trying to spin a rematch and the interviewer, probably for his own ammusement, asked King who he thought had won, and he goes "I thought Julio had the edge". Two things that were uique about that Interview. It was the only time I ever heard anyone suggest Chavez had actually won and also the last I ever heard anyone associated with Chavez mention a rematch ;)
hehehe...classic post...
There indeed was a bit of an uproar over that bogus decision, but the fact of the matter is this...
Whitaker whether due to media mistrust (understandable) excessive use of slurping Corona (understandable) and/or snorting cocaine (understandable) Pernell was an absolute bona-fide A-HOLE.
And his ring style?
About as appealing as a bad case of diarhea or gonorhea to most.
And THAT is why you didn't hear an even bigger uproar over that decision.
bizzack wrote today at 3:00 AM, edited today at 3:01 AM
* Ironically...you could say the EXACT same thing about Chavez -- except his style was more appealing to most, and he had a (somewhat) 'psuedo' macho-warrior reputaion at that time...
As far as the size goes...there is SPECUALTION that Sanchez could have POSSIBLY finished his carrer as high as 135 or maybe even 140. He was pretty tall for 126, and pretty young as well. ( * I actually believed he died at 23, but I'll double-check on that) 130 was almost a certainty for him from what I hear, but alas -- we shall never know. 
